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	<title>Comments on: whose [phone] line is it anyway?</title>
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	<description>the increasingly incontinent ramblings of a drunken has-been irish punk</description>
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		<title>By: madra</title>
		<link>http://bilgebrain.net/2005/12/20/whose-phone-line-is-it-anyway/#comment-1578</link>
		<dc:creator>madra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we've got a community wireless network in east manchester, but unfortch i'm in south manchester, so it's just frustratingly out of reach.  hopefully wireless or cable will come to my neck of the woods sometime in the near future - and when that great day comes, there won't be a hot potato in existence that has been dropped faster than i'll be ditching the loathesome BT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;ve got a community wireless network in east manchester, but unfortch i&#8217;m in south manchester, so it&#8217;s just frustratingly out of reach.  hopefully wireless or cable will come to my neck of the woods sometime in the near future - and when that great day comes, there won&#8217;t be a hot potato in existence that has been dropped faster than i&#8217;ll be ditching the loathesome BT!</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://bilgebrain.net/2005/12/20/whose-phone-line-is-it-anyway/#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is wireless broadband an option in your area? .. doesn't require a phone line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is wireless broadband an option in your area? .. doesn&#8217;t require a phone line.</p>
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		<title>By: madra</title>
		<link>http://bilgebrain.net/2005/12/20/whose-phone-line-is-it-anyway/#comment-1574</link>
		<dc:creator>madra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'd drop &lt;strong&gt;BT&lt;/strong&gt; in slightly under a nanosecond, if i could.  unfortunately, as you said,  no-one's doing cable round my way at the minute - so i'm stuck with those money-grubbing bastards for the near future.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d drop <strong>BT</strong> in slightly under a nanosecond, if i could.  unfortunately, as you said,  no-one&#8217;s doing cable round my way at the minute - so i&#8217;m stuck with those money-grubbing bastards for the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Cribbin</title>
		<link>http://bilgebrain.net/2005/12/20/whose-phone-line-is-it-anyway/#comment-1572</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Cribbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that emotion, change your phone line or get a second line through another phone company
 if possible dont use BT, bloated monopolies care little about small customers like yourself. 
I use telewest Broadband and have never had any problems with it, unfortunately you can't get it which is a real drag, http://www.broadbandchecker.co.uk/.  Hopefully switching phone companies will do the trick . 
Sorry to hear you are being messed about so much. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that emotion, change your phone line or get a second line through another phone company<br />
 if possible dont use BT, bloated monopolies care little about small customers like yourself.<br />
I use telewest Broadband and have never had any problems with it, unfortunately you can&#8217;t get it which is a real drag, <a href="http://www.broadbandchecker.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.broadbandchecker.co.uk/</a>.  Hopefully switching phone companies will do the trick .<br />
Sorry to hear you are being messed about so much.</p>
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		<title>By: madra</title>
		<link>http://bilgebrain.net/2005/12/20/whose-phone-line-is-it-anyway/#comment-1571</link>
		<dc:creator>madra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks.  

i've been coming to the conclusion myself, that this might be the only route left to me.  only trouble is, i've heard reports of folk doing this, only to find the "new" line came complete with broadband tags still attached.  maybe if i get a couple of valium down my neck, i can pluck up the courage to ring &lt;strong&gt;BT&lt;/strong&gt; tomorrow and see if i can get any coherent info from their far-flung and  ever-useful support staff.

and, strangely enough, i've just come across the &lt;a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/domain_name_theft_part_ii_did_icann_leave_foxes_guarding_the_chicken_coop/" rel="nofollow"&gt;following article&lt;/a&gt;, which suggests that, even as far back as 2002, &lt;strong&gt;phone coop's&lt;/strong&gt; [or &lt;strong&gt;poptel&lt;/strong&gt;, as they were then known] self proclaimed claims to provide &lt;em&gt;"ethical"&lt;/em&gt; services were as reliable as a promise from one of their support people to &lt;em&gt;"ring you right back"&lt;/em&gt;. 


&lt;em&gt;[regarding a customer in america who registered the domain name &lt;strong&gt;email.coop&lt;/strong&gt; through &lt;strong&gt;poptel&lt;/strong&gt;, only to find that it mysteriously got registered to &lt;strong&gt;poptel&lt;/strong&gt; themselves, rather than to him]

....
Poptel registers domain names under .coop for those seeking a domain name under that top-level suffix. Harris says as soon as he discovered the theft, he contacted a Poptel manager who promptly told him to “get lost.” To date, Poptel has provided no compensation for the domain name, according to Harris. A name query using .COOP’s WHOIS database reveals that Harris’ domain name is currently registered to the Registrar, Poptel: “domain:Registrant-Name:Lynn Davis; domain:Domain-Status:ACTIVE; domain:Registrant-Organization:Poptel.”
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks.  </p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been coming to the conclusion myself, that this might be the only route left to me.  only trouble is, i&#8217;ve heard reports of folk doing this, only to find the &#8220;new&#8221; line came complete with broadband tags still attached.  maybe if i get a couple of valium down my neck, i can pluck up the courage to ring <strong>BT</strong> tomorrow and see if i can get any coherent info from their far-flung and  ever-useful support staff.</p>
<p>and, strangely enough, i&#8217;ve just come across the <a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/domain_name_theft_part_ii_did_icann_leave_foxes_guarding_the_chicken_coop/" rel="nofollow">following article</a>, which suggests that, even as far back as 2002, <strong>phone coop&#8217;s</strong> [or <strong>poptel</strong>, as they were then known] self proclaimed claims to provide <em>&#8220;ethical&#8221;</em> services were as reliable as a promise from one of their support people to <em>&#8220;ring you right back&#8221;</em>. </p>
<p><em>[regarding a customer in america who registered the domain name <strong>email.coop</strong> through <strong>poptel</strong>, only to find that it mysteriously got registered to <strong>poptel</strong> themselves, rather than to him]</p>
<p>&#8230;.<br />
Poptel registers domain names under .coop for those seeking a domain name under that top-level suffix. Harris says as soon as he discovered the theft, he contacted a Poptel manager who promptly told him to “get lost.” To date, Poptel has provided no compensation for the domain name, according to Harris. A name query using .COOP’s WHOIS database reveals that Harris’ domain name is currently registered to the Registrar, Poptel: “domain:Registrant-Name:Lynn Davis; domain:Domain-Status:ACTIVE; domain:Registrant-Organization:Poptel.”<br />
&#8230;.<br />
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		<title>By: John Essex</title>
		<link>http://bilgebrain.net/2005/12/20/whose-phone-line-is-it-anyway/#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator>John Essex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a horrendous tale.
I can suggest a fairly quick way to resolve this though and that would be to have your existing phone line ceased. Then get a new line provided which will be "Tag free" and you can then sellect a new ISP
Obviously this is a pain as it means that you will have to inform all your contacts about the new number but at least you will be rid if this phone coop set of cowboys.

Good luck and lets hope the New Year brings you better luck. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a horrendous tale.<br />
I can suggest a fairly quick way to resolve this though and that would be to have your existing phone line ceased. Then get a new line provided which will be &#8220;Tag free&#8221; and you can then sellect a new ISP<br />
Obviously this is a pain as it means that you will have to inform all your contacts about the new number but at least you will be rid if this phone coop set of cowboys.</p>
<p>Good luck and lets hope the New Year brings you better luck.</p>
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